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« on: November 12, 2011, 09:26:03 PM » |
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Was. Driving along when I heard scraping noises from transmission? Nothing locked up. Clutch works.motor works fine. When I put it in gear it makes scraping noises when I let out the clutch in all gears. What is it? Universal joint? Transmission? Driveshaft? Towed bike home. Only 40,000 on bike. Any ideas? Boyd
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 05:00:20 AM » |
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Sounds like final drive splines died. Less likely is u joint. Another possible is pinion cup splines
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 06:54:23 AM » |
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So what does that. Mean in terms off cost and work needed? Any ideas?
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 09:04:31 AM » |
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A used final drive in good condition should run $250-$350, I wouldn't pay more than that for one. You can get any other final drive parts (pinion cup, u-joint, etc.) from HDL for not too much money. If it is the final drive splines that have worn out, all you need to do is take the rear wheel off, unbolt the shot final drive and bolt up the new one.
Have you been keeping up with the final drive maintenance? It should be cleaned and greased every 10K miles or problems will ensue.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 10:14:13 AM » |
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Hi Nitro! Hope all is well up North. What is HDL's E-mail address? I can't seem to find it anymore! Thanks
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 10:27:36 AM » |
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I just bought the bike a few months ago. The previous owner seemed to have looked after it. Bike is in excellent condition. I appreciate all the replies. I really love this bike and want to keep it a long time. I had dozens before but not a Valkyrie!
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 10:45:46 AM » |
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Mine did the same thing this summer - I purchase a complete rear gearset off ebay for $49 as you need the cup and that does not normally come separately. (pinwheel cycle) I also picked up a drive shaft for $55 so for under $100 I had it fixed. The used parts where just like brand new.
Mine went at 117k and had never been greased. I checked out the engineering of this unit and found the only way these splines get lubricated is via grease applied as it is impossible for the oil from the gear case to ever make it into the spline cup. To do so would require the oil to flow against centrifugal force. The actual movement of the spline surfaces is only a couple thousands of an inch but dry and moving back and forth for millions and millions of revolutions these things will eventually wear down.
They remedied this problem on the 1800's by simply greasing the splines at the factory. This is a once in a lifetime lubrication and even Honda does not specify a need to grease again as normal procedure and I have never heard of a driveshaft problem on the 1800. Many of them go over 300k.
However many people like to disassemble and re-grease with each tire change. This is fine and it's my plan however I change tires every 50-55k so I guess that will be the service interval.
The actual replacement is not bad, pull the wheel then unbolt the drive unit and pull the shaft out the rear. Change the pinion cup and fill it partially with grease (centrifugal force will spread the grease as you drive) lightly grease the spline and reverse the procedure. make sure you only finger tighten the drive unit in place - install the wheel and tighten the axle then tighten the drive unit - this makes sure everything is aligned properly.
Mine took about an hour to complete - not all that much more than changing a tire.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 11:24:48 AM » |
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Don't forget to change the 3 'O' rings...........
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 01:57:42 PM » |
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Wow you guys are excellent. Thanks for all the help! Sounds fairly straight forward but now I know I am going to get a few quotes from a couple shops here in Eastern Canada. Will update for interest sake later.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 03:37:38 PM » |
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HDL: Good place for OEM parts at prices better than most else. http://www.directlineparts.com/ |
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 04:08:41 PM » |
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Excellent! The manual reference above is great too. I was looking for one.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 06:45:48 PM » |
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Bad for you ! We had the same problem with the final shaft here. The dealer are suppose to grease it every tire change. He didn't.... 3 of us had to change the final drive shaft. I had one almost new but it was expensive! Pierre  |
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 11:16:25 AM » |
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Where can a good used driveshaft be found if I need one?
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 01:16:11 PM » |
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