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« on: December 08, 2007, 08:39:50 PM »

I've been reading both sides of the (eerie music) darkside saga (end eerie music), and I have to admit my interest is piqued.

I've asked my local tire dealer (Les Schwab) if they'd mount a car tire.  No way, they say.   Embarrassed
I have not asked my local Honda stealer, but figure they'll not be real interested in mounting a car tire if they can't make a profit off it.

So, where do I/you/we go to find someone who will mount a car tire on our Valk's rear wheel?

Stir, gently simmer and let's see what develops in this topic..... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 09:06:06 PM »

I have had mine mountesd at both my Honda dealer and a small, local shop. I think hand mounting is also possible. I want to eventually get a nomar changer and do my own. The local shop charges $25 to mount & balance.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 12:01:45 AM »

I had mine mounted at my favorite mechanic- the local Triumph dealer.  Didn't ask the owner, asked the mechanic directly and while he hadn't ever done it before and doubted the owner would like him doing it, he wanted to try and mount a car tire to my motorcycle out of simple curiosity.  I think it cost $50, since I had him take the wheel off for me, too.  I've heard lots of Darksiders have trouble finding folks to mount their new tire, but Eugene Cycle Parts is my regular mechanic and I didn't even think of going anywhere else.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 07:00:18 AM »

I took my "trailer" tire to a local independent tire shop to get them mounted. It cost $20 but they couldn't balance the tire with their equipment.

I liked the tire until putting Progressive 412's on the Interstate. One up things were great but two up the sidewall on the tire rubbed almost all the way through on a trip. Even with the nutcage mod.

I had to get another bike tire on it, changed out the springs on the shocks, and am waiting on the new rear tire to wear out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 11:41:21 AM »

I took my "trailer" tire to a local independent tire shop to get them mounted. It cost $20 but they couldn't balance the tire with their equipment.

I liked the tire until putting Progressive 412's on the Interstate. One up things were great but two up the sidewall on the tire rubbed almost all the way through on a trip. Even with the nutcage mod.

I had to get another bike tire on it, changed out the springs on the shocks, and am waiting on the new rear tire to wear out.

Don- What CT did you have on your bike that wore out 2-up?  And did you check the tire pressure before every 2-up ride- and if so, at what pressure did you keep it?  I've been very happy 1-up on my Goodyear Assurance for the last few months, but haven't ridden with my wife on the tail yet, but will as soon as the frost goes away. 

The Progressive 412s have adjustable preload, right?  Even at max preload, they weren't able to keep the pressure off the tire?

My bike mechanic's moto tire & wheel balancer was able to balance my tire.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 05:55:19 PM »

Goodyear Tripletreads, nice riding tires. I kept the tire at 40 lbs and had the shocks maxed out. They were rubbing on a crimp on the fender inner wall. At first I thought it was the drive shaft but found the problem area when I dropped the tire.

The 412's had non heavy duty springs on them. I had progressive put HD springs on and progressive front fork springs at the Hondahoot. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 11:29:22 AM »

I started with a Cooper SLE Lifeliner, sort of a family sedan type tire.  No problems, cleared okay, no nut cage mod 'til over 10m on the tire, then did it with no appreciable change.  The tire was pretty good, handled well and was great in the rain and really improved the rear wheel braking.  Tire pressure was 32

It lasted 21,000 miles and was really gone when I changed it.  For $79 out the door, I was pleased.

Installed a new Michelin Hydroedge 205/65R16 and what a difference it made.  A real tire is wonderful.  Superlative handling, excellent in the rain, outstanding rear wheel braking.  I can easily drag metal in the mountains in Arkansas.  The tire already has over 15,000 miles and will go at least that much more.  For $140 I am thrilled.  Tire pressure is 32.

I used to have them mounted at Dwight's Biker's Dream in New Boston, Texas, but, due to an idiot on a metric bike he will no longer allow work on anything but American iron... sorry to loose that deal.

The local Honda stealer won't even talk about it.  When I had them mount a new front tire three weeks ago, they refused to do a test ride with that "dangerous" rear tire.  I won't need a new rear tire for a while, and hopefully I can find a new shop to help me.  By-the-way the stealer charged me $58 to install and balance the front tire.  Dwight's used to do it all for about $45, front or rear.  The stealer also refused to put over 36 pounds of air in my new front tire "that's what the book says and that's what we will do!".
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 01:09:30 PM »

Goodyear Tripletreads, nice riding tires. I kept the tire at 40 lbs and had the shocks maxed out. They were rubbing on a crimp on the fender inner wall. At first I thought it was the drive shaft but found the problem area when I dropped the tire.

The 412's had non heavy duty springs on them. I had progressive put HD springs on and progressive front fork springs at the Hondahoot. 

40# sounds really hard for a car tire, from what I've read.  Sure that didn't contribute to the premature tire wear?
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 04:29:38 PM »

40# sounds really hard for a car tire, from what I've read.  Sure that didn't contribute to the premature tire wear?

Possibly I doubt it though. I feel it was the shocks, that was my 2nd darkside tire on it, the only difference was shocks.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 08:28:02 PM »

I've had my triple tread on for about 9000 mi now, tried everything from 26 to 40 psi in 2 lb incremnets. I like 36 for two up, 30 is realy nice  solo, but got some tail wiggle in the double digits, so went back to 36. nut cage mod and no rubbing on my scooter, but i understand some bikes are different for some reason. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 03:15:44 PM »

The reason that you may have a hard time getting a car tire mouted on your motorcycle is,.......IT IS NOT SAFE. It astounds me the lengths people will go to to show how silly they can be.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 03:50:55 PM »

The reason that you may have a hard time getting a car tire mouted on your motorcycle is,.......IT IS NOT SAFE. It astounds me the lengths people will go to to show how silly they can be.
Gentry, please see my other responses to your posts.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 07:09:55 PM »

The reason that you may have a hard time getting a car tire mouted on your motorcycle is,.......IT IS NOT SAFE. It astounds me the lengths people will go to to show how silly they can be.

Thanks for your input, Gentry.  Would you be kind enough to provide your own scientific/educational research as evidence on the topic?  You seem to be very passionate about the topic, which I equate to either bluster, personal knowledge/experience, or other scientific-based research.  Which is it?

If you have no evidence, other than hearsay, please refrain from making personal attacks.  You certainly do not know me, my background, or riding experience.  It is less than ingenious for you to jump to conclusions with no basis of facts or personal knowledge of the topic.  So, either put up or shut up.

Have a happy new year.

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 02:00:48 PM »

The local motorcycle shop was skeptical at first.
After they actually mounted  the tire they commented how nicely the tire looked and fit on the valk wheel.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 02:02:36 PM »

I mounted my own, Not exactly rocket science , 2 6x6 wood blocks
to put the rim on 1 or 2 12" C clamps to break the bead & keep
the bead in the narrow part of the rim, cut up a plastic milk jug to
make several rim protectors, 3 motorcycle tire iron's,
balanced it on 2 jackstands, Bridgestone potenza -02  205-55-16,
Want to put a 65 on for a little taller gearing next time Grin
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