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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 07:10:54 PM »

If you lift without an adapter, you lift with the exhaust-not good.
I truly believe even a Cowboys fan can make the wood one as shown in the link. Hey, I did it.

And, it doesn't hurt at all, to make sure you use jacks under the front crash bars...they don't HAVE to be color-matched, but it helps...

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 07:16:46 PM »

If you lift without an adapter, you lift with the exhaust-not good.
I truly believe even a Cowboys fan can make the wood one as shown in the link. Hey, I did it.

And, it doesn't hurt at all, to make sure you use jacks under the front crash bars...they don't HAVE to be color-matched, but it helps...



so is this being jacked up with no adapter Huh? jacked up on the exhaust
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 07:26:06 PM »



so is this being jacked up with no adapter Huh? jacked up on the exhaust

No, no, no...that's a no-no. I know, there are a few people that do it, bragging that they never have a problem, but I wouldn't do it without SOME kind of adapter. I have the bolt-on that stays on the bike. If I get in a REAL bind, I can always buy a HF floor jack, SOMEplace, and give it to the guy who lets me use his shop and tools...but, we ALL know that a Valk never breaks down on the road, or fails to get you home.

Tim in Dakota, built this one - it lifts with a standard floor jack, then sets on the "bench" to hold the bike for long periods. VERY nice, goes on and off easily. I might build one someday, myself...





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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 07:39:35 PM »

ok i put on the adapter and slide my craftsman floor jack under to try it out, it works and all,,,BUT my gawd its still wobbly   it rocks, now not real bad but it moves,and i also see flexing in the floor jack  ...im not sure i would be leaving it sit on it for any length of time,nor want to do any heavy wrenching or torching or busting nuts seems i could knock the thing right off this set up   any tips/trick/ideas 

PS I did see the jackstand trick in pics above     is that all i hav to do to fix this uncomfortable feeling about this jack
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 08:37:35 PM »

ok i put on the adapter and slide my craftsman floor jack under to try it out, it works and all,,,BUT my gawd its still wobbly   it rocks, now not real bad but it moves,and i also see flexing in the floor jack  ...im not sure i would be leaving it sit on it for any length of time,nor want to do any heavy wrenching or torching or busting nuts seems i could knock the thing right off this set up   any tips/trick/ideas 

PS I did see the jackstand trick in pics above     is that all i hav to do to fix this uncomfortable feeling about this jack

I felt a little uncomfortable at first, as mine was a tad "shaky" when I first used the jack. But, as you can see, I had the whole rear end apart, when I changed tires, without any issues. I think they will be wobbly regardless, but nothing to worry about. If you are handy, and worried, you can easily make a set of "outriggers" to stabilize the lift. I have known several that have, but none that still use them. I shook mine a LOT, when I was about 4 inches off the ground, as I was worried, but it held just fine.

I did find that the jack stands under the engine guards, GREATLY stabilizes it.

I ended up buying the Harbor Freight lift table, and a serious chock, and man, you can't compare the two! I still use the lift, for a "quickie", but there's NOthing like the table, for working at waist-level!! If you watch the bike magazines, they have coupons good for $220 off, or $280 for the $499 table.



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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2011, 08:52:56 PM »

ok i put on the adapter and slide my craftsman floor jack under to try it out, it works and all,,,BUT my gawd its still wobbly   it rocks, now not real bad but it moves,and i also see flexing in the floor jack  ...im not sure i would be leaving it sit on it for any length of time,nor want to do any heavy wrenching or torching or busting nuts seems i could knock the thing right off this set up   any tips/trick/ideas 

PS I did see the jackstand trick in pics above     is that all i hav to do to fix this uncomfortable feeling about this jack

I felt a little uncomfortable at first, as mine was a tad "shaky" when I first used the jack. But, as you can see, I had the whole rear end apart, when I changed tires, without any issues. I think they will be wobbly regardless, but nothing to worry about. If you are handy, and worried, you can easily make a set of "outriggers" to stabilize the lift. I have known several that have, but none that still use them. I shook mine a LOT, when I was about 4 inches off the ground, as I was worried, but it held just fine.

I did find that the jack stands under the engine guards, GREATLY stabilizes it.

I ended up buying the Harbor Freight lift table, and a serious chock, and man, you can't compare the two! I still use the lift, for a "quickie", but there's NOthing like the table, for working at waist-level!! If you watch the bike magazines, they have coupons good for $220 off, or $280 for the $499 table.




I will be using the jackstands  and I already thought i would go ahead and buy a lift table .for the simple reason all my tinkering and things i do to back i dont need the wheels off the ground i just need the bike higher   ..its hard for me to get up from the floor after 3 back surgeries and the titanium rods plates pins/screws   im kinda old and beat up to be playin with bike old school days ways
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2011, 11:05:35 PM »


I will be using the jackstands  and I already thought i would go ahead and buy a lift table .for the simple reason all my tinkering and things i do to back i dont need the wheels off the ground i just need the bike higher   ..its hard for me to get up from the floor after 3 back surgeries and the titanium rods plates pins/screws   im kinda old and beat up to be playin with bike old school days ways

My sentiments, exactly! Keep an eye out for the coupon, if interested in that lift table. There are two of them - one for $299, and the other for $279. It even has the "drop-out" so you can pull your rear tire, without any problems. As I said, I did replace the cheap and cheesy clamp that comes on that lift, with a more substantial one, that was on sale, plus their 20% off coupon, so it came out pretty darn cheap. I looked at a lot of tables, before I decided, and this was the best deal overall, and works great. There are bigger, better, more expensive ones out there, but for the money, this one is decent. I park the bike on the lift, at night, anyway, so it doesn't eat up any more shop "real estate" than NOT having it. I intend to make some "side wings" for it, to widen it. It is a little narrow, getting the bike on, your feet hang over the side. I used 4X4's, but want to make removable wings. Just another project...

You noticed my jack stands are color-coordinated, didn't you?? 
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 12:20:26 PM »

I bought the HF yellow ATV/ MC jack last week and built the wooden adapter linked above. Picked up a pack of small ratcheting straps as well. Put the valk in the air and then attached the straps to the lift and it was pretty darn solid.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2011, 12:16:33 PM »

Ok guys, I could use some help, please. I'm thinking about buying the lift adapter on E-Bay.
The one that attaches to the bottom of your bike. I'm having a hard time visulizing how to attach
it to my my bike. I've been told that I loosen the kickstand bolts and slide it on then retighten the
bolts. How does that work? My bike is a 97 standard, California model with a cannister. Any help
would be appreciated. BTW, go ahead and rag on me for not knowing how to do this, I can handle
that, I just want to learn how to work on my bike is all.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2011, 01:46:55 PM »

Ok guys, I could use some help, please. I'm thinking about buying the lift adapter on E-Bay.
The one that attaches to the bottom of your bike. I'm having a hard time visulizing how to attach
it to my my bike. I've been told that I loosen the kickstand bolts and slide it on then retighten the
bolts.

No biggie. The kickstand has a steel "bar" that goes across the bottom, and attaches to the frame with two bolts. When you loosen those bolts, there's a gap about 3/8" between the kickstand support bar, and the frame. The lift adapter has slotted holes on a piece of angle iron, and slides between the bar and frame, filling up the 3/8" space. When you tighten it, it all becomes like one, with the adapter permanently mounted, until you take it off.

The bolts have "stop nuts" or "Nylock" lock nuts, and they are pretty difficult to get to, especially since you have to have someone holding the bike standing up, while you loosen them, and tighten them. You will need a wrench on top, and a wrench or socket on the bottom, and two extra hands, holding, turning, and complaining. I had my wife hold it up, and it took us about 10 minutes, start to finish, plus an extra two or three for cussin' trying to get to the nuts with a wrench. You can picture it, if you put the bike on the sidestand, lay down next to it, and figure out what size wrenches and how to go about it. Then, grab the wife....

Thinking about it is almost harder than doing it - good luck, let us know how it goes.

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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2011, 02:01:03 PM »

Thanks Roger, I'll go out into the garage and take another look under my Valk.  What do i do with the cannister for smog?
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2011, 03:49:06 PM »

Don't have the cannister, so can't answer that. If I recall, it doesn't get in the way. Let me do a search, and see what I come up with. A lot of people here, are also on the VRCC boards, and between the two, there's not much that can't be accomplished.

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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2011, 04:30:48 PM »

Ok, Thanks again Roger!
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